when did socialism become such a bad word .?
did rich sell out your momma for a buck americans take over .Have the days of barn raisings and community projects that help everyone become such a bad concept. SINCE when did people working to make life better for the community become so wrong . COULD it be the government ,now run by corporate america and its intrests have sold out the working man . NO longer do we come together on anything and we all still have the same problems that have plagued man for centuries . the working man only wants whats his and for people to give him the chance to own a piece of land , a secure job outside of the local and federal jobs so prevelent today .this is only creating more poverty and a wider gap between those who have security and those who do not. i have seen both sides of america corporate greed and the working man . the numbers do not reflect the attitude of most americans . WAKE up ,those people who are living the dream are all part of government by the people for it's own self intrests.
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- When it became associated with those who feel the world owes them a living and that they should not have to work.
- True. It's to confuse the working class into voting for Republicans who screw them out of benefits and ship their jobs overseas.It is for the self-interest of rich conservatives who want to get richer,at the working man's expense.Money has to come from somewhere. Dems Senate 2006!
- Wealthy industrialists (capitalists) control the media and socialism has always been a bad idea (word) to them. If the world was entirely socialist, wealthy people would have to work just like everyone else.
- When we saw that it doesn't work.
- Why do so many people insist on pretending to be asking a question but then start preaching, horribly. Socialism isn't a bad word, Communism is the bad word, unfairly of course. Socialism it self is in our government right now. We have a Capitalism-Socialism hybrid. It's mostly Capitalism but it's part socialism. So calm down, buddy. Nothing you say on a mini-"answers" site will change anyone's opinion.
- During the Cold War, when people were whipped into a frenzy of anti-Communism. Noted American Socialists such as Eugene Debs were often put into prison, and were treated as if they were "Communist Sympathizers".
- When the soviets tried it.
- To answer your question. Socialism was never a good word in America. The American communist party woke up to this fact back in the 30's and relabeled themselves liberals instead of socialists. They then took over the democratic party. That's why Ronald Reagan became a Republican. Your long monologue under your question is alarming
- Maybe you should get out more. I recently participated in a project sponsored by Home Depot to build a playground for developmentally disabled children. Home Depot donated all the equipment and all the participants were volunteers. It happens everyday all across this country. It's not socialism. It's community spirit. It has nothing to do with "ism"s at all you dolt. It has to do with human spirit. Quit trying to label everything in terms of politics.
- Well, socialism didn't give Americans the lifestyle we have and enjoy. Socialism is definitely the way to go if you are unmotivated and don't have dreams of two cars, a 3 br 2ba house with a couple acres. Corporate America needs educated and motivated individuals to operate the corporation. A corporation isn't a monster rather it is a union of professionals providing a product that is sold to people who want and need the product. It is called free enterprise. So when did free enterprise become a bad word? Probably when you decided you wanted someone else to provide for you. Just realize that if someone else provides for you, you won't get much. Ask our friends who lived under the Soviet Union. They are experts on what socialism provides. And by the way, I am Swedish, Sweden is a socialist nation. Taxes in a socialist nation are near 75% of your income. Getting "ahead" is much more difficult when you cannot choose what to do with your earnings. Trust me.
- socialism has never had a place in America. Liberals and their insane redistribution of the wealth programs-that give free money to lazy a*sed people , who don't want to work...just collect a check. And then give em a tax rebate, too! That's F-ed up! Most Americans could a give a sh*t less about those kind of people. We are tired of being OVER taxed and over worked . The rest of your ramblings , don't mean anything. Just more propaganda.
- Preach on, but you might want to indulge in some spell- and grammar-checking first before you get your rant on, just so you know. If you are going to be annoying, at least be *intelligent* and annoying I always say. Having said all that. Socialism became a bad word courtesy of Senator Joseph McCarthy back in the 1950s when it was all too easy for folks in the media to *deliberately* confuse Communism and Socialism for a quick ratings boost in the politically charged days of the Early Cold War against that Soviet Menace. And, well.... Like one answerer already put it, if we had a fully socialist system in place in our government, *rich folks* would have to work for a living. They wouldn't be able to just sit up there high on the hog, endlessly reaping the rewards of their parent's investments (not even their work, but where they put their money) while attacking everyone else they see beneath them--that is, the poorest 80%, that is EIGHTY PERCENT that is, of the population. But....in all fairness, if we had a fully socialist system in place, what passes for the modern Democratic system wouldn't gain any traction either, because such a system *would NOT* be able to tolerate any perpetual ghetto-style poverty like what we have going on in both the hearts of our cities and the depths of our half-rural Trailer Park Towns (any small town where at least half the resident housing available is by Trailer Park). Simply put, our poor people would either be given enough resources to get back to work again, and then *genuinely* made to get back to work (stubborn, but subtle insistence--if not by being literally drafted into a Public Works Agency), or they'd basically be encouraged to get out of the system at least temporarily, by way of either pursuing an education or leaving the country. And a fully socialist American would NOT tolerate immigration the way we do. Legal, Illegal, whatever, it would happen a lot LESS if at all. So what do we have instead? What we have is a hybrid, something that is mostly Laissez-Faire Corporatist (think Mussolini Fascist) Capitalism (look back to the Gilded Age of the Robber Barons back in the late 1880s to 1890s), but has just enough *minimally funded and poorly executed* socialisms to keep folks from openly revolting against the Rich guys. Usually. When most people can still work for the man, and choose to do so. Enter Reaganism, wherein what few fetters on Corporate CEO power are broken entirely, and what few half-assed safeguards on social order are torn to shreds in the name of "conservatism". When actually it is nothing more than *cheapness*, because folks figured out that Mass Media manipulation, on the largest scale, is actually *cheaper* for the CEOs, that own the politicians on both sides, (as crowd control) than keeping people working at minimum wage and *giving* poor folks half a chance to live without being swept into the gutter like roadkill...which held up. Until Resident Dumbass and his little Bin Laden Inc. Clique (Dick Cheney, former business partner with Bin Laden Construction of Saudi Arabia, founded and ran by *Osama's daddy*) decided to *murder* the New Economy by *calling in* a terrorist attack on our soil and *letting it happen* when the hijacked aircraft could and should have been shot down...or never allowed to take off from the field. Yeah, and until the corruption and general idiocy that passes for governance up in D.C. *willfully and deliberately LET Hurricane Katrina kill New Orleans* and until his Imperial Majesty Down In Crawford let the carcass of the city rot and fall into barbarity for five days straight as people, actual human beings, were ALLOWED TO DIE.... After which, Marie Antoinette--a.k.a. Laura Bush, had this to say of the Rot and Ruin at the SuperDome: "Well, they're poor people, this is likely better than what they're used to..." Uh-huh, sure...like we are used to dying of starvation, heat stroke, and being attacked at random while we fester in our own raw sewage....sure, whatever.... But you get the point, right? Socialism is a bad word because the Almighty Rich Man Says NO, and he OWNS the Media, and he OWNS the Politicians, and he OWNS the Plantations and de facto Debtor's Prisons where he INSISTS you will work for pennies on his dollar until you DIE and get ground up like Good Little Roadkill into Soylent Green to *fuel his SUV* out in China where the Almighty Rich Men will take their money and run, to the one place on earth left where living like a Fu Manchu Dictator is openly *welcomed*.... Socialism is a bad word, because it is what the REST of the world does, and America is "special"--in the sense of being too damn RETARDED to stand up for itself and take proper care of its own citizens, like the rest of the Developed World does. Really, do you think either Japan or Germany or the UK or France put up with HALF as much raw unadulterated bullshite as we do from our Filthy BackStabbing rich? Do you really think Paris Hilton, that popeyed freak inbreed of a Rich-Girl, do you think she'd be a celebrity *anywhere else* on the planet but here? No, and hell no. But nooo, we have to be special--as in insane. We have to give in to the learned helplessness the CEO Media has been pumping into our tired over-worked and under-paid brains for the past 26 years at least...we have to suck up and appease our abusers and give in to that Greed-Fueled Stockholm Syndrome. It sucks to high heaven, and not one of YOU will do anything about it. YOU voted Pinky and the Brain into the highest office of the land, TWICE. YOU voted in the leadership that Let Bin Laden GET AWAY in Afghanistan. YOU allowed the New Economy, the last best hope working folks--that bottom EIGHTY PERCENT of the population in terms of wealth--to die a horrid death just because Resident DUMBASS and his Big Oil Butt-Buddies said so.... It is YOUR society that has been actively, deliberately and willfully screwing me and people like me out of getting a life at *EVERY* last turn, no matter how hard we work, no matter what our education is, no matter what we do, NOTHING IS EVER GOING TO SATISFY YOU PATHETIC RICH FUCKERS is it?? YOUR society, where Greed is Good, People are Worthless Unless they are Here Illegally, and where you'd sooner sell our ports to damn filthy Arabs who want us all DEAD than actually *train* and *hire* actual CITIZENS to do the job better......your society has to go. Because Socialism is the *opposite* of a bad word. It is what is NORMAL for the REST of planet EARTH. It is what really works, not this Mussolini-ism of letting the Rich Have All, while the rest of us HAVE NONE and get treated like so much roadkill.
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